Friday, September 14, 2012

Sighting of Joseph McStay?

I took this photo of a swimmer in the surf of Wildood's beach the day after Labor day.

When I got home and was going through my photos online, I thought, "Hey, that guy sort of looks a lot like Joey McStay of the missing McStay family."

What are your thoughts?

Yay or nay?

I think a lot of guys probably look like Joseph McStay.

But give me your thoughts as to possible or "no way."

I mean if you found this blog post because you follow this story.

Note: Kindly do NOT reproduce this photo without my written permission. I took this photo and own all rights to this photo.If you are a representative of a media source (journalistic, telejournalistic or otherwise) and would like to incorporate this photo in a feature, feel free to contact me via email: IceStationpoetry@aol.com.

And please. no snarky comments about my assertions of property rights in this matter. I obviously shared the photo here so that it could be used in any way possible to advance the search for the McStay family (if it is actually J.M. depicted).

Mass media (which are "for profit" entities) routinely pay photographers for the rights to photographs. So I have no reason to feel abashment for doing what every other intelligent human being does with regard to his or her intellectual property. There are numerous photos of J.M. in existence for use by the media in furthering the search for him and his family. This particular photo is not needed for that. But it might be of interest to media that follows this story because of the large interest in the disappearance. Any pointlessly negative comments attacking me on this sensible stance will not be posted but marked as spam and deleted. The only reason for leaving comments like that, anyway, would be a pettiness or nastiness. I appreciate 99% of comments I receive on this blog (and even many that disgree with me entirely on things). But there is that 1% of people (almost ALWAYS cowardly "Anonymous") who just leave sniping comments. That 1% gets vaporized and I go about enjoying my day. Thanks to the great readers who are adults and don't act like this! I appreciate your visits!

72 comments:

  1. He sure does resemble Joseph. Too bad you didn't notice while you were there and could see him closer or take a gander to see if his wife and 2 boys were near by.

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  2. Does look like him. A few days ago there was a reported possible sighting of the family at a restaurant in Southport, NC. The person who reported it said they may have been driving a truck with bikes in the back. They got breakfast to go and appeared to be heading for Bald Head Island. Perhaps they are traveling down the east coast?

    Thanks for your articles regarding this family, they are very interesting!

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  3. That's odd about the possible sighting in a nearby state. Yes, it was unfortunate I didn't observe more this guy's "circustances," company, etc. on the beach. I am near-sighted and was just using the great zoom on my camera to catch the (very few) swimmers in the surf. The beach was just deserted that day because people just leave en masse after the holiday. At that time of day there must have only been a dozen or so people on that stretch of beach and we were all spread out very sparsely. It's odd the way the guy caught my camera watching him and has that almost paranoid look. But then when anyone's shooting us we get that way, don't we? But I'm surprised he even picked me out, considering I was well over a hundred yards away by my estimation, possibly even more. It's so strange that everybody (myself included) just assumes they're out of the country. Maybe they just changed coasts. Each successive day that week Wildwood got more and more deserted. I shot a lot of old vintage motels and many of them only had one vehicle staying at them, even if they had a hundred units. The streets I walked down off the boardwalk were like ghost towns too. Right town not to be seen by too many people. It would be absolutely WEIRD beyond WEIRD if someone who blogs about the family randomly pointed his camera at a swimmer in the Atlantic ocean and it turned out to be Joseph McStays. But the first person I showed this to...I had them Google his image and then look at the pic blown up...and he said "It sure looks like the guy." So so strange lol.

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  4. And that guy was the ONLY guy in that part of the ocean. I think one or two other swimmers a mile to his left. Most people were just on the beach. Riptides were forming from the one hurricane that passed by far far off but never came inland in that part of the country. I think the bad weather went up and hit New York. The very tip of New Jersey (where Wildwood is) was one of the few places to get mostly sun.

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  5. Oh yay, I see Debbie Downer has made her way here already. There are some people who seem to consider themselves experts on this case and jump on anyone who comes out with info/sightings about the McStays. It's almost like they DON'T want this case to be solved. Or don't want it solved unless they themselves solve it. I still think there's a possibility the McStays are alive and in the U.S. Thank you for sharing this pic.

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  6. When was this picture taken and exactly where was it taken? A lot of people are wondering the same and why you haven't turned this over to the police or contacted the authorities?

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  7. That is a very hateful thing to say about Debbie. No one is jumping on anyone. If Joey has been seen somewhere, you should be responsible and not just say, look, I think this is Joey and let it go at that!

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  8. Anonymous, thanks. I figured it was the right thing to do. I am technically "sharing" the photo since I posted it and it comes up in search engines, etc. I did take the photo and maintain rights to it so I'm hoping others aren't posting this photo on sites that make money, etc., since I did not give permission for any outside use. I only found it when going through my photos from the beach trip. It was taken either the day after Labor Day (a week or so back) or two days after (I forget which disk this one was on). It was taken in the early evening at Wildwood, N.J. on the beach not all that far from 17th St. and boardwalk (a few blocks south of that I believe). I figured the police and/or the FBI will just swoop the pic if they want it and use their photo identification techniques to make a determination. That's their business, obviously. But any commercial sources using this photo without my permission would be a no-no. If any magazines are interested in purchasing the right to this photo, they can feel free to contact me and this can be accomplished. I'm sure law enforcement can get exactly what they want from what I posted (all I know is stated) so it's not like anyone should be accusing me of "profiteering" in my stance. Because I posted this for possible evaluation as soon as I realized I had it. I asked if you folks reading this thought it was him, because I honestly don't know. It spooked me because I think it does look so much like him. But I realize the odds are beyond belief if someone actually interested in this case just happened to stumble on J.M. on a random beach trip when he was virtually the only guy in the ocean that day (that area anyway). But I suppose weirder things have happened. I'm not sure who you are referring to as Debbie Downer, since all comments left so far have been nice, friendly comments and I have appreciated all of them. I think it would be naive to think the authorities didn't find this picture within an hour of my posting it. But I've always wondered whether our government knows exactly where the McStays are and are just rightfully respecting their right to privacy. I could see that being the real secret behind the "mystery," meaning the only mystery is why they choose not to live publicly any longer. Cheers. And thanks again for your comments.

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  9. Mike McStay viewed this photo and says it is not his brother. My prayers continue to go out to the family. This has to be so tough for them, another false lead. It has to be hard, wondering where your family is, are they safe, happy, why...heartbreaking.

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  10. That is joey ,100% sure! I promise you , Thats him.can you blow it up more please?

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  11. Hi. Anonymous, you seem to be reading comments that don't exist. I don't see any Debbie Downer comments. Bamamom, can you please provide verification (as a link or public statement) where Michael McStay expressed his belief this is not his brother. I have seen him vacillate on the border crossing photos where first he said certain people were his family members. Then on the later documentary he flip-flopped. Photos can be tricky things. But I'd love to see where you read this? Link please? Because people say anything in blog comments. Cheers.

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  12. Bamamom, I can see you just created your profile today (1 view) and you seemed to be posting comments and then responding to the comments you posted under another name. Please source that quote if it is real.

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  13. Nothing on the family website about this photo and we have only your "word" to go by "Bamamom" that Michael McStay said it is not Joseph in the photo. And your profile has existed long enough to get 1 profile view. And you're posting under two different monikers according to my tracker. So forgive me for taking what you say with a grain of salt...or perhaps less. If you can source MM commenting the photo, great. If not, then that statement means nothing to me and shouldn't to any other reader.

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  14. Sorry, i posted the 7:19 comment as anonymous,i didnt see there was already that name taken. that was my first post. Im an old friend of Joeys and I think it is surely him, can u enlarge it more>

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  15. The thing mikey said was "not my bro"its on the fb page 4 find the mcstays

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  16. Hi. The pic can be enlarged with any standard image manipulation site. Or even if you download to your desktop and right click. Can you give me a link to that page on Find the McStays. I was trying to Google it and finding too many similar sites. Thanks for getting back.

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  17. Oh...I just realized. You're probably not CLICKING on the photo. If you just click on it, it would enlarge considerably! And I can't find that quote you're mentioning. If you don't know how to share a link can you cut and paste the address of the fb (home address). The ones on FB i'm finding all have much older comments, nothing current at all.

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  18. Okay, I found it and read it. You're right. MM does say it's not his "bro." But a bunch of other people seem sure it is him. The majority seems to be "yes" by far. I was really hurt that people thought this was a "set up" and that I might even "know the guy" and have created the pic as a hoax. I WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DO THAT TO ANYONE WHO WAS MISSING LOVED ONES THEY FEAR COULD BE DEAD. And those who thought I should have been chaseing the guy all over the beach. As I said, I only found that pic when I was going through the nearly 5,000 photos I took at Wildwood over three days. I had no idea what that guy looked like up close in my little sun glared viewfinder! The picture is totally genuine and with no bad intentions behind it. I have no idea if the picture is genuinely M.M. I just felt it looked enough like him to warrant throwing it out there in the public eye. Learning of the possible S.C. sighting afterwards seems to lend a tiny bit more credence that it might be him. Yes I UNDERSTOOD the likelihood of someone who follows this story (periodically, not every day) snapping a pic of a member of that family (and I RARELY EVER travel). But if you saw a pic like that on your disk, wouldn't you at least post it? At first, I thought "Damn!" Then I thought, maybe the eyes look too slant...but when I googled M.M. again I saw a lot of pics where he has that slant to his eyes and the rest of the facial dimensions seem striking close and of course the hair color and style. I don't know if I would have approached the guy even if I had been able to see what I photographed on the beach. Would I really have any right to do so? I tend to think they're all alive and have chosen to live privately. Wherever that is. I always figured South America, Europe or Australia. I would like to thank the people who don't know me at all but who defended me on FACEBOOK when people began asserting I was deliberately hoaxing or something nefarious. I don't do shit like that. That's sick to mess with family member's feelings like that. I genuinely wondered (and still wonder) if it's him. I'd say I admit I know the odds are against it. There have to be other guys who look a lot like him. But it does spook me that people who describe themselves as close friends (more than one by far) and their wives, etc. are saying on that Facebook page they think it is him.

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  19. I mean if the picture is J.M....not M.M. typo

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  20. I'm sorry, I stepped away from my computer. I have only posted under bamamom, nothing else. Yes, this post was on the Find the McStay Family Facebook site. I have been following this site on FB after seeing the "Disappeared" documentary a month or so ago. I happened onto your blog today after someone mentioned googling DK's name. I did the same and wah lah (dumbass slang for voila), there you were! Sorry, had to make a funny to lighten the mood. A few hours later, someone posted your link to the picture and blog. Someone notified Mikey and he posted "Not my Bro". Sad...has to be difficult for him.

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  21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/324645994165/permalink/10151138341119166/?comment_id=10151138459064166&notif_t=like is the link, good luck! Who knows, praying Mikey is wrong and something does come of this and another sighting earlier this week.

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  22. No problem, Bama! Thanks for being a "good egg" and all and explaining. I did find the FB discussion. Surprised me how many people seem sure it is J.M. even if M.M. doesn't. But then maybe that's just their hope speaking. I honestly don't know. I realize the odds of me seeing this guy and capturing him in a random photograph must be a zillion to one. And yet it spooked me when I finally got to that frame going through my photos. And it's seemed to spook a bunch of other people. I'm sure none of us has any day how hard it is for all their loved ones. And yet I remain convinced the McStays are live. I don't see think a single one of them is dead. Possibly the government knows this. It isn't our right to know if they don't want it known. People can disappear...in America or elsewhere. As long as they're not "wanted" for crimes, etc. Thanks for trying to lighten the mood. I think it's cool the way "Debbie Downer" has suddenly come back strong into the vernacular. I see people using it everywhere. And yet that series of skits was popular some years back. Or maybe SNL is still running it? Never even considered that. I remember it as being the skit which alsways broke up even the cast members...many times they couldn't finish the skit without losing it and laughing. Those clips might be the best lol. cheers.

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    1. PS, I hope you didn't think I made the post about Debbie Downer. I assumed that this was someone's being smart about another Debbie and I didn't particularly find it amusing. Yes, SNL skit was funny, but not the comment. It's too bad you can post anonymously, you should have to use a profile name. Sorry, just seems lame and like you are hiding something if you post anonymously.

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  23. Also, thanks much for the link, Bama, which came through after I posted the last (poorly edited!) paragraph. I've been there but others might want to follow your link and see the discussion/thoughts as to whether people think it's him, resembles him or none of the above. :-) I really want to believe all those people are alive, but the reasons I think they're alive are based in rationality and facts, not just hope. As to whether that's him in the photo is another story. You've read my blog (you said) so I won't rehash the reason why I believe they're alive and possible reasons for their decisions to make their lives MUCH more private (as in disappearing).

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  24. I wouldn't get too upset about people's comments on the FB site. Most of these members are very serious about everything posted. You have to read a lot on that site to understand. Apparently, there is some animosity between Patrick McStay and some members of this site and the possibility that people are making up FB profiles to glean info. I'm not sure exactly why, but from what I have seen, there are several who seem a little over paranoid. Don't take their comments personally. No one on this site wants to see any false information posted that may hurt the family and I am sure you understand this. I have asked questions and kind of gotten my feelings hurt a few times when accusations were tossed about that I was hiding behind my profile there, also. They are just being protective of the family. I am like everyone else, I can't stop thinking about this case and that is all. I am neutral, just trying to put two and two together, just as you are. My heart still goes out to this family and I, like you, still hope this IS Joey and that this is the beginning to the end of this nightmare for this family.

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  25. No, definitely do not take offense. You have to realize, we have all hashed this out in our minds trying to figure out what happened and we all think differently. Some of us are naive and want to believe everything we see and hear and others are going to scrutinize everything. Most think it is Joey, but a few, including Mikey, say it's absolutely not Joey. We all think differently, not to say either is wrong.

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  26. Thanks, Bama, for your kind words and the "healthy thinking" spin. Sorry you had that experience with getting flamed. Some people can be abrasive online (I've done it in the past like the next guy). Probably I did it even unintentionally sometimes. As you get older, you try to think a bit more before you speak. Or I do. But I still probably screw up with tone sometimes or someone misreads my tone or intent. Like you, I pray all these lovely people are alive and well. I think P.M. had a somewhat combattive relationsip (antagonistic at least) with some of the law enforcement--and possibly as you speculate--others. It's sad that a search effort should not be a unified front but have partisan elements. Although maybe one party might push the other party in the "other" direction and a good result be ascertained. Who knows, really. I know P.M. has his own legal woes. I knew he had to face charges on the bad checks problems, but I thought it was sad someone his age should be sentenced to the federal penitentiary for a crime like that. You'd think out here he'd stand a much better chance of making restitution. I have this feeling that P.M.'s business ventures and financial turned legal problems might be part of the reason for the "disappearance" (and I repeat I think it was a voluntary disappearance on their part) of the McStay family. But I think they had numerous reasons to want to start over and get out of this (at that time) tanking economy. I'm sad that M.M. seems mostly to believe his brother and their family are dead, but I think I understand his reasons for believing that. But I really don't think they're dead. Too many coincidences pointing in the direction of voluntarily leaving. Seemingly irrational acts often turn out to be rational acts when you eventually get ALL the pieces of the puzzle. And life is often stranger than fiction. That might be a cliche but still....Cheers.

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  27. For the first time since following this case, I now lean more than ever towards the witness protection theory.

    Why?

    Because of Mike Mcstay's quick, brief reaction to the photo. "Nope, not my bro."

    Maybe he is just frustrated and didn't have much else to say, other than the fact that he does not believe that his brother in the photograph.

    Or maybe. Just maybe. The witness protection theory has been true all along. I have read a few personal stories of individuals who once entered WP. In certain cases, the individual(s) is allowed to tell one family member of the situation. With that being said, it is possible that Mike is covering for his brother.

    Reward money is only $1,000


    Bridge has never been searched


    A man who is a deadringer for Joseph appears in a photograph and the only response is "no, not him!"


    If I had a family member go missing, and a picture eventually surfaced with a person who looked EXTREMELY similiar to that missing person, I would imagine my response would be something to the effect of "While I can understand the excitement over this photo because the man does look a lot like my brother, I am sad to say that is not him" VS "nope, not my bro."


    William, what do you think?


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  28. I found your comment very interesting. I too wondered at the brevity of his response, but I must confess something. Early on, I was much more cynical about the family disappearance and at one point even referred to the missing as the "McShady famiy." I later apologized but it's quite possible M.M. has some (understandable) rancor towards me. Oh wait, that's not the worst thing I've done. Like you I questioned the ridiculous reward amount (which really makes you think they KNOW they're all alive and could easily be found) and I also bristled when he posted that thing on the family website about "Any reasonable offer will be entertained" to produce segements about the missing McStays. He started to really look like Impresario Michael or Ringmaster Michael or something. That much said, he could really be the nicest guy in the world and completely aboveboard. I don't think he's as good an actor to fake all the seemingly genuine befuddlement and emotion I've seen in interviews. Has he maybe profited from this a little more than he ever expected? Maybe. But as to him instantly denying the photo, I think the BIGGEST reason would be the ones cited by other people posting to the FB page: What are the odds that someone who's blogged about this for years would be the one to snap a picture of Joseph McStay swimming in the ocean? I mean I'm laughing even as I'm typing that. I can UNDERSTAND why people would say that. If it wasn't me and I hadn't lived the actual (very weird!) experience, I honestly wouldn't probably believe it either. I'd probably be one of those guys (or women) saying "He could have taken that picture anywhere. Probably he looked for a model." But if you knew me, how I rarely leave the house, don't have money to hire "models" you'd know that was like the one "vacay" I took in years and I couldn't even see who I was photographing. It was just this lone guy in that stretch of ocean and I wanted to snap it. I'm of the RAINMAN school of photography. I just shoot any direction and anything. I'm bogging down my computer memory from so many photos lol.

    I'M A WINDBAG. COMMENT CONTINUED BELOW.

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  29. But I never took another picture of a man who looked anything like Joseph McStay. And I did NOT know there had been an East Coast sighting of the family (allegedly) just the same week or the week before. That did spook me. I have no idea if it's J.M. in the photo. Sometimes I think "Yes" and other times "No." He could easily be puffier and the water does add some confusion, his closed eye, etc. But as I go point by point it spookily matches up to his features. And the main thing is the first time I saw the photo I had that INSTANTANEOUS spooky sense of recognition. I immediately had to ask someone else for comparison and that's why I asked on the blog. It does spook me that people who say they're old friends are sure it's J.M. If I really photographed J.M. on the beach I'd say life is a MILLION times weirder than fiction. But I've had about a dozen astronomical coincidences like this in my life. It's like that segment that starts the movie Magnolia, if you've seen it. Those stories. How do these things happen? I guess just the pure enormity of experience and the permutations of what may occur? It does feel uncanny though. About the WPP, I believe the authorities who say that is not a possibility. So you may be right that M.M. may know more about the status of his family than he lets on but it might still not be WPP. I'm not 100% sure as I'm not a fed or anything. But I've seen a lot of reassurance it's not that. Plus, I think someone close to them or in their lives would have faced major prosecution. I realize that person or those people could be further afield of their lives, more "off camera" as one says, but I don't know. I don't really buy the drug cartel/Mexican or Colombian connection either. And yes, I know Summer is of Colombian descent. I lean more towards the mental illness theory with regard to Summer. Borderline personality disorder could explain a lot of her really anomalous behavior. Thanks for making me think about this again. It's a puzzle that seems never to end, but since they're alive I think it will end eventually. And happily.

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  30. Oh, and one more thing: as for the people who stated they believed I "faked" a photo or hired a model, those idiots can go to my Flickr and see I've been posting hundreds of photos of Wildwood and its beaches. So whether or not it's J.M. in the pic (who knows) I was really at the beach and there with family who would vouch. They're also in photos and I'm sure there are "date relevant" details in the photos to verify when I was there (right after Labor day).

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  31. Thank you William for posting the pic. I can see where folks might think it a bit strange that someone who has blogged about the family might inadvertently catch this particular shot, but as you say life is indeed stranger than fiction. I found MM's denial a bit dismissive but if he doesn't believe or doesn't want to say it's his brother, that's his prerogative. I too now wonder who knows what and who isn't saying what. I find it interesting that JM's eldest son and parents of have never come forth publicly with any comments (that I'm aware of). Maybe camera shy, but I doubt it. The FB page has some very strange characters hanging about and moderating. At times the posts there seem to be more centered on the posters themselves than on the McStays and some truly idiotic squabbles result between people who for all appearances are attention seekers themselves. I'd like to see this case wrapped up by Christmas myself, enough is enough!

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  32. Not only does the face look exactly like Joey but even the ears are identical. Google image Joey McStay and look for pictures where his hair isn't covering his ears. I wonder where he and Summer have run off to now. Imagine the panic they must feel with this picture surfacing.

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  33. Hi Katydid. Thank you for your comment. The universe has a strange sense of humor sometimes. So even though I know the odds are astronomically against it being J.M., I still wonder...the one thing that makes me REALLY wonder if it IS J.M. is learning about the sighting in S.C. which is not that long a drive from Wildwood. And Lord knows J.M. loves the ocean. Here he had a beach virtually all to himself (largely deserted)...except for one cameramman lol. What are the odds, right? If it is him he's definitely gained weight, because this guy looks puffier. But it does look like a "puffier J.M" to me. Thanks for letting me know the Facebook page is sort of wild and unruly. I was really touched when a few people who don't know me other than my blog defended me against those who implied I was a hoaxster or prankster. I might be a little crazy (bipolar) but I don't hallucinate and I'm not the sort of person to do irresponsible pranks like that. It amuses me that some commenters seemed to think I set up a casting office for models who look like J.M. and then place him in the ocean in just the right light to make him look most like J.M. Puhleeeeeze! I was much more concerned with taking photos of patterns in the sand, sea birds, all the beautifully strange things that had washed up from the distant hurricane's churn of the sea, etc. I'm usually too polite/afraid to take photos of strangers unless it's from a distance and they're sort of anonymous. I zoomed in on the lone swimmer just because it's one of the few great features of my not great camera...the 35x zoom. I didn't even realize he was staring at me, which made me feel embarrassed and so I instantly pretended to be photographing something else lol. He caught me. He looks very wary but most people do when strangers take their photograph. But he picked me out fast from a great distance. If that really is J.M., the commenter below probably hit the nail on the head: "Imagine the panic." But I never intended to do that. I just thought it would be irresponsible not to post it. When I had that shiver of recognition....or what I thought was recognition. Hearing of the other sighting has just bolstered my belief that very well may be J.M. J.M.'s mother has participated actively in the search and anyone who saw her in the Laura Ling documentary could see the woman was crushed by the whole experience. I felt terrible seeing that.

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  34. His father has also participated but has chosen to sort of stay off on his own tangent search and has (allegedly) criticized tactics of L.E. and others. He was in federal prison down in Louisiana for bad checks, but he may be out. I haven't kept up. I felt bad for him getting a prison sentence. I knew he had to face charges but I thought it was overkill locking the guy up in a federal pen. I mean when so many violent predators get off so lightly or no time at all sometimes. I know there's no victimless crime and all that, but you probably know what I mean...he's an older guy too....he could make restitution better from the outside, I'm sure. Anonymous@10:38, thanks for your comment as well. Thanks for the "ears" comparisons. If you do the point by point on features they seem to match up. But then it could still not be him. I know so many people who have dead ringers. To give you one example, I watched an entire movie last week thinking an actress was Parker Posey. It turned out it's this other actress who is a ringer for her. When I Googled it, I discovered EVERYBODY confuses this actress for Parker Posey....it's the first prompt Google search gives you...meaning tens of millions of people probably Google this amazing resemblance. So I understand there is that. The only thing which makes me lean towards "Yes, it probably is him" is learning (AFTER I posted this) about the sighting on the same coast less than a day's drive from there. What is that? Six hours? Four hours? Maybe they're leading a peripatetic lifestyle despite the increased risks of being sighted that way. They were always sort of unconventional and loved the ocean. Maybe they're just going from beach to beach. "It ain't illegal," as they say lol.

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  35. You should be ashamed of yourself...did you REALLY think someone wouldn't figure it out?! Why would you want someone to look at your photos (that aren't even there!!!) and risk being caught! Sick! Polaroid: Lee in Blue Lagoon, Paul, Spooky....REALLY!!! You are a fraud, and I would bet would you did IS illegal!

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  36. Ha, just what I figured, no response!

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  37. "Bamamom," I knew you were a fake from the first time you posted. I gave you the benefit of the doubt but you didn't realize you gave yourself away when you referred to "Debbie Downer" when nobody but you had said anything about "Debbie Downer." No such comment referring to any DD had been posted on this blog. Listen very carefully to the following. I consider what you're doing harrassment and I will pursue it legally if you even contact me again. I repeat: do not contact me. I got your email and responded very politely to it, but I want no further contact from you. The only thing spooky here is someone (YOU) who obviously needs to get a life. The photo is genuine. You are the fake, hiding behind dumb online personae. I suspect I know who you REALLY are, and if you continue to harrass me I will find out. Because any i.s.p. will give up your personal information for prosecution if a stalking charge is brought against you. One of my life goals is to "be nice to everyone." But there are exceptions to that. And you are now one of those exceptions. Oh, and to repeat one more time. Don't contact me again. Go drive people nuts on FACEBOOK with your drivel. Your email told me you were clueless from the start, but I still gave you a polite response. But zero time and zero tolerance for you now. And switching to another online identity won't help. I'm going to zap any negative comments. Then contact the authorities. The charge is called "harrassment by electronic communication." It's a federal charge. So you might get to meet one of the McStays if you unwisely continue to harrass me and we end up going to court. Buh-bye now.

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  38. YOU DON"T HAVE TO PUBLISH THIS BUT...

    someone on Facebook posted the above photo with the head shopped out of it, saying it's a hoax. Someone by the name of Farrah Folami Carrer who looks like kind of a lowlife? Just thought you'd want to know.

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  39. Hi. Hey, thanks for letting me know. I laughed at your line about the lowlife. I've had two try to leave comments here today. Feel free to tell her to prepare to be sued for using my photo without permission. Hope she's rich. . I really try to be friendly to everyone who comes here. I like people in general. But that BamaMom (I won't reveal her real name but you probably know who it is if you frequent the same circles on FB) wrote to me pretending to request my assistance and I politely told her all I know which is nothing. I took the photo on the beach at Wildwood that evening. What more is there to say? She said some insulting things even in that email but I figured I'd respond anyway and then she'd buzz off. But she started acting like a stalker right away. Get this. She wanted to see every photo I took of my PERSONAL VACATION and go through them. Some people are fucking nuts. Pardon my French lol. Anyone who spends any time reading my blog knows how much I rack myself through the coals when I engage in bad behavior. Like I'm going to go fake a photo to torture people who are presumably looking for their lost loved ones and in pain. Ummm...I have a little something called a conscience. And when I do something wrong it gnaws the hell out of me. So I don't do those things. I'd sooner cut off my pinkie than have something like that on my conscience. But why am I still defending myself. These are nutzoid people too obsessed with the missing McStays. I might have actually SEEN Joseph McStay (I have no idea if it's really him in the photo--but sure looks like him) and I don't spend all day worrying or thinking about this. In fact, I didn't even think of it at all today until that nut whose comments are above attacked me and slandered me. I'm seriously going to file stalking charges if this turns into an everyday thing. And she better watch what she puts in writing about me. The above is getting darn close to libel. That woman you mention....that's a civil case for stealing my property and a libel case for accusing me of hoaxing when I have done no such thing. I am still having a good day. I hope you are having a great one. Life is too short for people to behave like this, ya know? I guess I should realize they REALLY do believe that photo is a fake so that's why they have such violent emotions. I wish there was a way to show them my conscience or go back in time and have them there with me on the beach. Because then they'd realize and their anger would dissipate. They must think it really looks like him if they're so convinced I faked it. Because why would they care if it doesn't really look like him? They must believe it's him much more strongly than I do. I gave up trying to figure it out. The guy in the pic looks to be of more Mexican heritage than J.M., I think sometimes. But then when I do the point by point comparison I start thinking it's him again. He would definitely have to be a bit heavier though. I don't really know how much a part the water played in distorting the image. I didn't even realize the guy's one eye was closed until I blew the photo up. I wish I was as fucking good at Photoshop as those people seem to think I was. I couldn't even learn to use the "layers" in Photoshop. I can do digital art and stuff but I have nowhere near the finesse to know how to make one face look like another or work at the pixel by pixel level. I wish! Because I love making visual art, digital art. Thanks again for letting me know. 99% of comments I get I love receiving, whether people agree or diagree with me. And then there's the 1% who are just a few cows short of a pasture. ;-)

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  40. If you read the post on the fb site. there is a clear discription of how the investigator found out the picture is photo shopped. He said it took 2 sec. to figure it out, as the pixels on the head are way different size than the rest of the picture.You gotta understand that that pissed people off! I am a life long friend of Joey and it made me extremely pissed! Also the fact that you have blogged about Joeys case prior to posting the pic ,makes u look very suspect. What are the odds? very unlikely. So ,that being said, I would expect a investigator to be contacting you to look at the picture and see if you are legit or a hoaxer. If you really did take the shot u have nothing to fear.

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  41. Ras Mikey, I'm posting this one because you talked rationally, unlike in the other comment I zapped where you invited me to "burn in hell." If I do, it's certainly not going to be over this photo, because it is a genuine photo taken with a Canon Powershot SX30-IS on Wildwood's beach either the evening after Labor Day or the evening after that. Still haven't clarified it's place in my thousands of photos. I think it's hilarious that an "investigator" explained why it's a fake since it's not a fake. This Canon has a 35x zoom which I'm told is one of the best you can get. But when I was reading about zoom they told you to avoid it whenever possible in photos since the pixels will be compromised in the center. Something like that anyway. That guy was a LOOOONG way away from me. This camera does beautifully detailed shots of the moon's surface. It's one of the FEW great features it has as it sucks in anything less than strong outdoor light and sucks on macro as well. I UNDERSTAND why you feel my prior blogging makes me suspect and I confess I would feel the exact same way if someone blogged a pic like this. But I'm not lying and this really happened. You don't keep the pictures on the digital camera. You have to download them to a program onto your computer (and I clear the space out because I take over 1,000 photos a day on many days!). So it's in my Zoom Explorer or Zoom Browser...forget what it's called... the Canon program that comes with the camera. I don't know WHY the investigator is wrong but I know he is wrong. I'm not going to even read what he wrote because I know he's wrong. So why waste my time when I know the truth. COMMENT CONTINUED BELOW...

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  42. When you transfer an image from the Zoom Browser to a file folder (because you can't upload to Flickr directly from the Zoom program) you get a pop up box that warns you will lose some digital quality in the "translation." There's no way to get around it.I'm wondering if that's what's confusing him. Trust me I've TRIED to get around it because any photographer will tell you they want the best resolution they can get. But with every "translation" of an image you lose resolution. But the pics basically look the same to an untrained eye. Whether this would affect the trained eye I have no idea. If the FBI is interested in the photo, I'm sure they would contact me. But probably they know where the McStays are and don't care since probably they don't want to be found and aren't wanted on any charges. That's my personal belief. I am only 50-50 on that guy even being Joseph. Obviously many of you are convinced it does look like him since you think it was a hoax. First, I have very limited digital skills and lack the finesse to do such a thing. And second, if someone were going to perpetrate a hoax (and it wouldn't be me) don't you think they would make the guy look a LOT MORE like Joseph McStay. I wouldn't bet much at all on it being him. Sometimes I think it is. But other times that guy looks more Mexican to me. I don't know what J.M's Mexican heritage is, if he has any? And yes, I have nothing to fear. Bring on the law enforcement lions. But it better be someone official who the agency will identify. I didn't post the pic to get stalked or have regular joes who have an imaginary deerstalker come trouncing into my life, like the lady who asked to see all my PERSONAL photos from my vacation. That's freakin nuts. My guess is that the FBI or anyone else has all they're going to get of any use right there in what I shared openly. Do you really think it looks like him? How convinced are you? I couldn't go above fifty percent. No way. And you have no way of knowing what that "investigator's" credentials are. I will only give my time to federal or other LEGITIMATE law enforcement--I respect law enforcement--but as I said it's worthless because I know nothing else of that man's activities before or after that photo. And the photo's info is probably right there in the photo. Presumably the version remaining in my Zoom program would have a slightly higher resolution but I'm telling you the photos really look the same when you look at them in either program. The eye can only detect pixels to a certain point. So they tell you since you are technically losing a little resolution for the trade-off to be able to upload a pic somewhere and not just stare at it locked in the Zoom Browser thingie. I don't really understand why they didn't make it so you can just upload out of that Zoom thing but I'm not a tech head.

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  43. So now I at least know why people are attacking me. Because someone thought he knew whereof he speaks. Wrong. So he formed a lynch mob with his incorrect interpretation of the photo. Great. A little learning is a dangerous thing. Alexander Pope was right. My mother is in ill health and I swear on her life what I am writing here is the truth. That guy needs to read more about the Canon's 35x zoom...and zoom in general...you lose resolution in the center of the pic. That was even on a list of 10 Tricks in Photography I read online. Avoid zoom. But the ONLY way I was going to see that swimmer was with the zoom. And I figured he was far away not to notice me snapping the shot (didn't want to make him feel uncomfortable). But when I realized he had spotted me, I felt abashed.

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  44. Hey, while there's so many of you people way more obsessed with the Mcstays than I am, can anybody tell me if the reward for the missing family of four is still at one thousand bucks? Because I would offer more than that for my cat if he went missing. I mean I love my cat. I'm not trying to be offensive but let's use a little common sense. That Paypal's been open for business a LOOOONG time on that family website. Somehow I feel a "leetle bit more" than a thousand bucks went through that thing. What do I know? I'm just a poor dude. But I honestly would offer more than that for my cats. Either one of them. Even the pissy one.

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  45. Hello Mr. Keckler...I hope you don't mind but I took the liberty of copying your photo so that I could check it more closely. I am a professional photographer and have done my share of photoshop work, and I would have to say that either your photo is genuine or you are one hell of a photo shopper. I was also able to pull up the meta-data from the photo and it confirms what you have told us...the photo comes from a 'Canon PowerShot SX30 IS' and was shot at F-5 1/800 sec. at 60mm focal length using digital zoom at 2.109375.
    The only thing that is different from what you tell us is that it shows the images was taken on 8/7/12 @ 11:13AM (you may not have the date set to the correct date on your camera :) )
    Anyway, although I don't always agree with everything you post/have posted about the McStay family, I do believe this photo to be the real deal. I think the resemblance to Joey is uncanny, but I, like you, waffle as to if it is really him or not...I am currently sitting on the fence.
    As to the reward...yes, still just the $1000 offered by Crimestoppers. Sad, but true.

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  46. Tanya, thank you so much for that vote of confidence. And you can pride yourself on knowing more than a "self-proclaimed" expert who was wrong on this, and libeled me out of his ignorance. You have outed my laziness about my date being set wrong. I never mess with that as I consider it irrelevant. For confirmation you can look at photos I took today of a teddy bear in a terrorist mask on the top of my Flickr page. I'm assuming the date will be "off" as many days as that date you cite was off by either day after Labor Day (or the day after that). I just posted this photo and then bascially forgot about it when M.M. said "not my bro." I tried to help by posting it. It's interesting to me that you find the resemblance uncanny. I am at the point where I thought about it too much and just can't even process it anymore. I'm right down the middle. I remember the weird flash of recognition the first time I saw it in my Zoom Browser. But since then when I look at it, my mind just goes fuzzy. I try to imagine the hair dry and block it out and look at just the face and say "Yes? No?" I'm trying to imagine if a little bit of weight put on would make the face most of us know from the media shots at that shape right there we're seeing in the photo. I honestly trust other people's judgment on this more than my own. Because I think knowing someone intimately makes you much more likely to know those infinitesimal subtleties and nuances of expression. Of course, I don't know those. I would assume MM would. But then I think he changed what he believed about the alleged border crossing photo between interviews. Photos are strange things. And especially with distortions. With the border crossing you had weird graininess, attenuation of figures, etc. altering "reality." And here we have water rushing all over the place and the guy with one eye closed. No clue. It's in God's or the FBI's hands or whatever lol. I wonder what optical recognition technologies are available? Probably all in the hands of private corporations or the govt. And I have no idea if they account for weight changes in faces? The human brain can sort of imagine that. But can those programs (I'm thinking of the ones that pick out terrorists from the thousands of faces floating through an airport--fascinating science!) And thanks again. It's not a hoax. But that it in no way means it's him.

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  47. I would like to know if anyone can zoom in enough to see his nose. His nose was slightly crooked and is very noticeable in the picture of him w/ out his long hair. GOOD PHOTO!!!!

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  48. Stacy, thanks much for that observation and your comment. I'm sort of off in other worlds today, but feel free to download the photo and run it through any image manipulation program which should allow zoom! Cheers.

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  49. William, I have been a fan of your blog for a while.

    It's sad though that I feel the need to post on here under Anonymous because if anyone from the facebook page read that anyone, such as myself, is somewhat suspicious of Michael McStay, they might have a heartattack and ban me from the page for good.

    With how SUSPICIOUS the dissapearance of the McStay family is, I find it disheartening to know there are people out there dumb enough to fall for everything Mike McStay says- simply becuase he is Joey's ADOPTED brother.


    Have you read the comments on the facebook page recently on your post?

    (RasMike is someone who claims to have known Joey since childhood)

    RasMike Wilmeth Cmt: are u sure Mike> I know your his brother and i but a bro but my very first reaction was yes! can a picture be blown up of joe and super imposed over the picture shown to compare face outline. If you say no way its him, ill take it.Just anted 2 share my gut reaction.could just be my hopefulless makes it look like him to me.


    RasMike Wilmeth Cmt: My wifes reaction? "dude,thats totally him"


    Michael Mikey McStay: I don't need SDSD to reference this shot... It's Not my brother.... I've known him all my life... It's not him.

    RasMike Wilmeth Cmt: I couldnt hurt mike, esp. when me and 3 other child hood friends of Joes , all feel strongly it is Joey. I respect your call but I ask u, just let them see it. Let them make the call. love ya bro.


    Michael Mikey McStay There are similarities.... But wrong bone structure .....




    Did you read those comments William?
    Am I the only one who things something isn't right?

    Mike McStay wants to brush off this picture as if it never happened. "Wrong bone structure" he says. From all the hundreds of pictures of Joey McStay I have seen, the bone structure is dead on.

    So strange to me the way Mike McStay wants to brush this off and even ignore childhood friends of Joey who disagree with him.


    interesting though that RasMike has commented on your blog, saying shame on you, when he obviously agrees that it looks like Joey in the picture.



    I can't remember on which other post, but this "RasMIke" person also commented: "Mike! Three of Joey's childhood friends feel strongly that is him. Please turn this picture over to the SDPD."

    Again, Mike declined.

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  50. Hi "Anonymous." Those people will definitely read your comment as I found out they're obsessed with this case to the point it takes over their lives and they will attack people online over it. But maybe they won't know who you are since you post anonymously. I try to rationalize it, that they believed (wrongly) I am a hoaxer because that know-nothing said the pic was fake. And then a bunch of professional photographers verified the pic is genuine. And they believed that for a day. Then they actually accues (according to what I was told yesterday) one of these well-intentioned defenders of being in some sort of conspiracy with me. Nuts!! This is why I don't talk to people who behave like that. Life is too short and I have a sick mother. Maybe Michael McStay is 100% convinced it isn't his brother, so he sees no point. Annabel Houghton was the photog who drew the lines over J.M.'s face to try to show the points of comparison in a scientific manner. I think her photo explains why so many people BELIEVE it is Joseph McStay (there is a LOT of matching up almost exactly all over that face). BUT (and maybe I'm reading her lines wrong) according to her drawing the left earlobe looks considerably longer in my unsub (unknown subject) than it does on the drawing she did. That's not something I could see changing...hairline, weight, yes. Earlobe length? No. So if she drew it exactly I think that might rule him out. Not sure. As I said before, I think the guy in my pic might look a little more Mexican or of more Mexican heritage then J.M. (if he had Mexican heritage--something Latin in there anyway you can see, I think). Even people who normally make sense get a touch of McStay Madness. People feel that J.M. has an obligation to "turn himself" in if he is voluntarily missing. Actually, he doesn't. This is America. If you choose to cut off your family and live your life the way you want to live it, that is your right. Even if I had been able to see who I was photographing, thought it was J.M., I would not have chased that man down or stalked him. That's just wrong. If it's J.M. his family was probably nearby, back at a hotel, and he was probably enjoying his day. If it wasn't J.M., then all this talk is irrelvant.


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  51. Drawing lines on a pic is one thing. But the professional forensics experts probably have great technology that can give a much more definitive answer. If their optical recgonition technology can find terrorists casually floating through crowded airports, I 'm sure they can weigh in with a much more certain analysis. I had thought the ears matched up on length when I did my own comparison but I didn't go to the detail of doing an overlay. If her overlay is correct, then it's probably not J.M. I don't want to speculate on M.M.'s other possible reasons for this. The only thing I will admit is I don't understand the one thousand dollar pitiful reward for a family of four. Because serious money has been made on this story. Make no mistake there. Somebody got rich (or several somebodies). Well, probably richer. And wait. That reward isn't even a thousand bucks. It says "UP TO a thousand dollars." So it could be a dollar. Makes you wonder whether someone either 1)really knows they're alive and doesn't want to part with any of those McStay mystery earnings when they slip up and are found or 2) loves keeping any money they get their hands on. Of course, if it is all a hoax at this point (updates seem less and less everywhere) and I happened by some fluke to catch J.M. enjoying his day at the beach in a photograph, wouldn't you expect complete denial that it's him in just such a manner? I'm NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I repeat: I don't know. Don't know if it's J.M. Don't know if that's the case. But (unlike many) I keep an open mind. THAT IS NOT INTENDED AS A SPUR OR PROVOCATION for any of these idiots who attack people online to go attack Michael McStay now. Give people the benefit of the doubt until they're actually TRULY caught doing something wrong. I know I've done nothing wrong. Maybe he knows he's done nothing wrong too. I know it's frustrating there's no answer and this drives some people crazy....and some people around this case are just attention whores who will DO ANYTHING to get some attention online. I'm not one of those. For example, I had at first asked Houghton to reproduce her photo with the lines laid over it. Then I realized, I don't want any more McStay Madness going on so I just said "Nevermind." I do appreciate that she did that though for people who really want to know if it's him. I'd like to know too but since I believe they're all alive and voluntarily missing I don't have the component of worry that some people might have. These people parachuted out of broke lives into solvent ones. That's the simple story. They love privacy. All of this is the opposite of privacy. But what you gonna do. It's inserted into the public sphere and keeps floating along. Have a blessed day and all that good stuff.

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  52. P.S. Probably I'm just confusing certain of McStay's dark features with Latin genetics back there somewhere--probably I'm way off because I can see more Irish features. And I think the guy in my photo looks more Mexican. I keep focusing on the earlobes now and I think the guy in my pic has much longer earlobes (you can only see the left one because of the wave). Some of that is water dripping off his ear but even if you try to figure where the earlobe actually ends most likely it is TOO LONG.

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  53. I mean I just did a Google image search and looked for the "Latin" thing. It's probably not really there.

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  54. I was just in Wildwood all summer (love that place), and now I WISH I would of known there would of even been the slight possibility the family could be there; I would of had my eyes opened more. I believe that picture DOES look like him, but being so far away, It's hard to tell. I even considered going down there to search (lol), but Wildwood is currently dying out dramatically for the season so I'm not sure they would continue to stay there if they are there. Maybe they would go to the cape may area? Very interesting, though..

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  55. The Vanishing McStays: Why the Family Fled Paradise

    http://rickbakershow.com/?p=1556

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  56. I'll have to check this out later when I'm in a McStays mood. Thanks.

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  57. IMHO, MM stated emphatically it's not JM because MM knows where JM is located, and it's not there. That said, I think this guy is a dead ringer for JM. Interesting that you snapped it.

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  58. You're probably right. This is probably just a money-making thing for them now. Why it bores me now.

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  59. Probably the person who had the "sanest" perspective on this from the git-go was Geraldo.

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  60. William what are your thoughts on the differing "camps" currently out there surrounding this case?

    On the one hand there is the "Find the McStays" Facebook page, allegedly started by Mike McStay (bro) and moderated by one very nice lady and one very beastly lady. The folks there seem to hate all things Patrick McStay (dad) and it's not a very informative nor friendly page.

    On the other hand there is Patrick McStays Facebook page "Search 4 McStays" in which Patrick lambasts all things law enforcement and Rick Baker(author). PM is an interesting if somewhat cantankerous individual. There is a bit more discussion on his page but it's mostly throwing insults and rehashing old items.

    The newest addition to the ranks is Rick Baker, a DJ/author/blogger with a blog called "The Vanishing McStays" who claims to have a ton of insider information and insinuates he knows the family's whereabouts. He trades insults with people from both Facebook pages and apparently holds them all in contempt. He has written a book about the family due out in January 2013.

    Last but by no means least is the Websleuths site with a thread devoted to the family's case and it seems folks from all of the above persuasions come there to post. It is by far the most informative of all the pages.

    I have seen reference to your photo lately as part of a possible "tip" and potential sightings along the East Coast. You posted the pic on September 14, but it appears that only now has law enforcement gotten wind of the late summer sightings?

    BTW- what do you think Geraldo's take on this case is? Has he featured the family on any of his shows besides the one that he did in 2010 right after they disappeared? Thanks for your work here, it's one of the few reliable sites to visit regarding this mystery.

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  61. Thanks. I don't really even keep up with the case anymore since I'm convinced they're all "voluntarily missing" (the adults' choice anyway) and that either MM is clueless or he's in on it. I can't say I can blame him for holding some of the people in contempt at the FB pages. Some of the people who came here (like the "beastly lady," good characterization) are clearly attention whores who have apparently used this case to substitute for their missing "real lives." But some of the people who came here were seemingly nice people. I own all rights to that photograph so I would advise anyone not to reproduce or make money off it or be prepared to answer in court. Not personal, it's just the way things are done when you own the rights to a photograph.For the record, I no longer believe that even is PM in the photo, but think it's an outside possibility--I lean to "no" however. Mainly because of the length of the ears.I don't know Rick Baker or his book but I could understand him losing patience with some of those people like that abrasive, clueless woman who harrassed me briefly. People like that don't help the search at all. But then she's not there to help the search really, despite all her pious proclamations to the contrary. She's there to get attention on a daily basis. She should just start her own blog and talk about her chronic halitosis or whatever personality disorder she's suffering from (clearly at least one) and she'll find she has more "followers" than she does at the FB page, which I never visit. The only site you mention above which is totally reputable and keeps it all aboveboard is the Websleuths site. I've visited that on several occasions. I'm very impressed with the way the site is moderated and the level of contributions stays high and is accordingly kept interesting and on point. I was referring to that early rough treatment of MM by a very cynical Geraldo, who I think hit the nail on the head right from the start, smelling in this a willful disappearance. I felt bad that PM actually did jail time in LA for that charge. His confrontational relationship with law enforcement and the rest of the family seems counterproductive to a search, but it's my intuition that PM would be shut out of any info on the missing McStays (if other family members know something) because I believe PM and his woes are one of the PRIMARY reason the missing McStays took off in the first place. One lawsuit with their names on it was put on hold as a result (according to the Websleuths site). I hope Rick Baker isn't that guy who was briefly given access to the house by the family and then was apparently discredited by the family as totally untrustworthy? I'm not saying he is. But there was a really shady "journalist" who curried favor with the family and then turned out to be a bit of a nutjob. Hope that's not the same guy.

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    1. I didn't realize there had been a lawsuit for sure. I remember reading about the possibility somewhere though. Baker was given access to and photographed the house but it was a long time after the family went missing. I believe it was Summer of 2011. He may be the same person you are referring to but I don't know for sure. He has a few engaging articles and theories about the case on his blog so check them out if you get the chance. It does appear Patrick McStay has burned a few bridges throughout all of this which is unfortunate because I feel he has no clue what really happened and only wants answers.

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  62. typo: I meant I no longer believe that is "JM" in the photo (not PM, typo)

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  63. Hi Katy. I did. It left a really bad taste in my mouth. P.M. obviously has some problems. I can relate. I hope his life gets better. I just read the promo for his book in which he brags about "tapping" into McStay email accounts. That's not journalism. That's crime. The whole thing comes across (IMH) as seedy and exploitive (promising "sexual misproprieties" and the rest). Anything to move a few copies of a book. I suspect he's not going to make much money on this but I won't be surprised if he gets sued or even prosecuted. He's already bragged about engaging in criminal behavior. He said he went on a search in Wildwood. I think it's a safe bet he based that on the photo I posted. So, he's welcome for that. But not welcome to use my photo or anything else of mine. If that is the same guy (and I'm sure you know whereof you speak) there was some serious discrediting of his "credentials" going on about that same time he tried to cash in (the first time) I don't really find this any interesting story any longer, really. I'm glad I never donated any money to the "search" since I'm convinced they're all alive and well, and do not want to be found. And if Mr. Baker believes they are volunartily missing and do not want to be found (he intimates that in the promo for the book) why is he being a bad citizen and human being by trying to break through their desired privacy. If he had any new info L.E. needed, he should have turned it all in. And if L.E. sees no need to prosecute, extradite, then no big deal. Let the people live their lives.

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  64. Hi There,

    I first heard about the whole McStay family case early last year, back when I lived in New Zealand -so it has truly become a huge international mystery!- and it has fascinated me ever since, like countless others obviously. In the time since I started trying to make sense of the disappearance myself, google brought me to your page whenever I made a search, and your blogs have provided sooo much potential information and intrigue. Everyone should appreciate that you have brought more publicity to the case and the great deal of thinking about it you must have done!! So on behalf of everyone who is trying to find the family, thank you for your articulate blogs :)

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  65. Thanks, "New Zealand," for your kind words. Cheers and Happy New Year to you and yours.

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  66. I read here sometimes but don't usually comment...but I wanted to today. The McStays have been on my mind. It occurs to me that things don't add up because we don't have the benefit of knowing what may or may not be "in character" for Joseph and Summer. For example, I have a dog that I love dearly. I would never, ever, ever leave him in our backyard, even if I felt relatively certain that someone would eventually hear him cry and feed him/find a home for him. I couldn't leave him. And everyone I know knows this about me. So if he were abandoned in our yard, everyone could definitively say, "She left by force." And everyone who knows me knows that if I am ever missing and they found dirty dishes in my sink that foul play must be involved because that would also be super out of character for me. I have not read where the people who seem to know the character of Summer and Joseph well enough to say whether or not the state of things at the home are out of the norm for them comment on this. I am totally not criticizing the extended family, but I would be beside myself with emotion, devoting every ounce of everything I had, begging the news to follow up, plastering communities of every lead with flyers, basically devoting my entire being until I died of exhaustion to finding my sister's family if they went missing. People sadly disappear. Families do not disappear! I pray that the extended family simply knows the wherabouts of the McStays and out of the need to protect them, can't fill us in. Thanks for listening and happy new year...- Tangents

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  67. I studied it closely and I have to say I can't find anything that would exclude the possibility. In fact, a lot of the asymmetries are the same! Interesting...

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  68. Thanks for your comment. The guy is somewhat of a ringer if it's not him...someone did an overlay of this photo with a known photo of Joseph M. and I ended up thinking the ears were different enough in length to rule him out...but who knows...

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